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POLL: Wang Property Proposal

Have you seen the latest proposal? What do you think of it?

There's a plan under development to build nearly 900 housing units to one of Plainview's biggest and most discused open spaces.

has scheduled a so-called "public scoping" session for Tuesday, March 13, for the proposed development of the that was once home to the

The property belongs to and is being developed by the Jericho-based Beechwood Organization, which is calling the project "Country Pointe at Plainview." The proposal, still in the early stages, is to build  a "mixed use" development on the land that would include 890 multi-family housing units, including 90 "Golden Age" units and 536 other units with age restrictions. There is also a commercial component to the plan.

Beechwood's initial plan is spelled out on their website. It includes several ponds and more than 40 acres for public use.

Take our poll and tell us what your early thoughts are on this subject that could affect Plainview's future. The site has been the subject of controversial proposals in the past. Will this one be any different?

Simba March 12, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Currently there are 130 homes for sale in our area, so why do we need more for sale. Think about this if you are planning to sell your house, do you really want more competition which will more likely reduce your asking price because of the large glut that will be available. I'd love to hear from the school district on how they plan to support a larger student population without raising our taxes, oh but I bet they will, they are probably 100% behind this deal. How about hearing from our local PD, seems they have their hands full these days, do they plan on increasing staff to balance the numbers, probably not right. And let's not forget our wonderful roads, has anyone noticed how travel on Old Country Road has been slow. Let's save some green and tell Wang, NO THANK YOU.
Simba March 12, 2012 at 11:49 PM
How about more info on the meeting, where, when. The TOB site does not have any info, smells fishy.
Gerard March 13, 2012 at 02:34 AM
Old Country Road is ALWAYS slow during business hours. Thats nothing new. I find the roads around here no better or worse than anywere else on LI.
Simba March 13, 2012 at 08:40 AM
Gerard how much slower do you want it to be when there are at least another 2000 cars on the road here locally. 900 units and about 2 cars per family. Forget about the commercial traffic.
TheGreek March 13, 2012 at 01:00 PM
Simba - The site says: The meeting is scheduled for 7 p.m. on March 13 in the hearing room of Town Hall East, 54 Audrey Ave., Oyster Bay. http://countrypointeplainview.com/country-pointe/news.cfm?type=News&currentNews=8
TheGreek March 13, 2012 at 01:19 PM
The Wang web site did a cut-and-paste from this patch article: http://plainview.patch.com/articles/latest-plan-for-wang-property-to-have-hearing
S. Joy March 13, 2012 at 03:13 PM
Re: School district--- if you look at the plan the housing is limited to the majority being to 55+ over restricted housing. If you look at neighboring communities and similar housing for the past ten years there has been very little influx of children from these types of housing projects. The Hamlet, The Seasons, various developments in Melville---instead there has been increased revenue from property taxes. Re:# of homes for sale -- the people who would be purchasing properties in this development aren't the target for houses for sale in Plainview. Ideally one would purchase a townhome, build equity, save money and eventually move up into a single family home. There is very little competition with houses for sale.
S. Joy March 13, 2012 at 03:16 PM
When you have an older community (55+) you find that a good # of the residents are retired or work part-time. Also take into account the # of residents who will be away several months out of the year during the Winter. They are not usually all out on the roads at the same time. There aren't going to be 2000 cars out on the road all at once. Traffic is not that horrible on Old Country Road, no more or less than anywhere on Long Island.
S. Joy March 13, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Personally I am looking forward to learning more about this project. The conceptual design looks like it could be a good addition to our community.
Simba March 13, 2012 at 03:45 PM
Sharon They say only 90 of the units will be "Golden Age", that leaves 800 units. As far as the roads, do you feel they are in top shape ? Do you guarantee that the Golden Oldies will be away from their homes half of the year, is that a fact. I'd like to see more facts as well, as well as some guarantee's on how many units will be 55+, somehow with the economy the way it is, I do not believe they will look to limit on who they sell to. I'd also love to hear from the School District on how they plan to handle even a 200 student increase. You say it will be a good addition to the community, what exactly do you think we lack, that this community will add.
Tom March 13, 2012 at 04:04 PM
What does Wang intend to be the cost of these units? Most communities like this are VERY expensive. The other community in Plainview has plenty of For Sale signs for over $1,000,000 each. And the lack of sales has forced the age requirement to be reduced in the other age-limited communities on Long Island because of poor sales.
scrmom64 March 13, 2012 at 04:15 PM
People wake up and be realistic! The area is going to be developed. The question is into what.
Simba March 13, 2012 at 04:19 PM
If we all had your attitude there would of been an Old Plainview as Sir Wang wanted. This is just another way for him to get what he wants.
doc2simon March 13, 2012 at 04:23 PM
I just watched News12 and they indicated the hearing is about the use of the property. Based upon information I received from my neighborhood association it said the purpose of tonight’s hearing is to identify issues to be studied by the developer and town.
Gone March 13, 2012 at 04:28 PM
Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. - Edward Abbey, writer, essayist, novelist (1927-1989).
maryk March 13, 2012 at 04:38 PM
All articles that I’ve read indicated the property is to be developed by Wang. I live within walking distance of the property and representatives of Beechwood knocked on my door to explain the proposed development. They indicated Beechwood is in control of the property as well as the proposed development.
Zachariah March 13, 2012 at 09:46 PM
Let's get a State of the art "Hospital" people.This will replace the overcrowded Plainview Hospital we have now. If anyone is attending the town hall meeting, please suggest this.
S. Joy March 13, 2012 at 09:47 PM
If it is between this property design and one that is mainly industrial and business oriented than I support this one. I feel Plainview and the surrounding area are greatly lacking in affordable housing for it's young AND aging population. I want a community where our children can come back to and live in after college---without having to stay in their parents' basements. If we can give these children (and their grandparents) a nice area to live in complete with acres of open land for the community? Then I'm all for it.
Gerard March 14, 2012 at 03:01 AM
Seriously Simba...2000 more cars on the road at the same time? C'mon now!! I've been living here for almost 14 years and traffic around isnt that bad. Oh yeah OCR can be congested at times especially from Manetto Hill to South Oyster Bay Road but it isnt gridlock conditions. Problem is people have no patience driving if they are delayed a minute or so. And there are other East/West options like Jamaica Ave/Southern Parkway or Woodbury Road that move faster.
Simba March 14, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Gerard, I did not say at the same time. More cars on the road, more commercial traffic. Why don't you and Sharon explain the positives of this plan. Come on, tell us how this will benefit our area. If it's about lower income home prices, do you really want that here, and what exactly is the price of these homes, are they really more affordable than the 130 homes available now. Look on the Country Pointe page and read the FAQ's, They have not met with the school district yet to discuss impact. Full traffic study has not been done. Rentals and Hotels "not anticipated" at this time. "Proposed" 70% for 55 and older. Their words not mine. Be careful what you support. There is not enough concrete information for me to agree with this. If anyone has hard facts, I would love to hear them.
Gone March 14, 2012 at 01:19 PM
If this happens, where does the POB Soccer teams practice and play their games? I don't believe they will be able to use Soccer Park.
JOE March 14, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Wang's proposal will add just under 300 homes for families. Can our schools handle 150 to 200 more children without hiring more teachers , upgrading the school facilities , and raising our taxes? the answer is no.
Gerard March 14, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Simba, where did I write that I support this project? My comments were concerning the supposed traffic apocalypse everyone is worried about. I have not made my mind up either way on Wangville.
Simba March 15, 2012 at 12:12 AM
For those who think the "affordable" units will remain that way when they don't sell better get it in writing from Wang that they won't sell for much more. Do your research and you will find this has happened in other communities in the New York area. If the reason to support this project is to create home ownership for our children, I'd rather the focus turn to creating job opportunities for them. Your kids won't live here if they don't have a job.
Simba March 15, 2012 at 12:18 AM
Also it amazes me that some would rather take the chance to have our school taxes go up especially when Mangano just announced a proposed 13% property tax increase. Folks we need to keep us away from tax increases of any kind. Otherwise they'll be a lot more than 130 homes for sale and this town will bottom out in a hurry. Just like John says, what do you think an increase of 200 more kids will do to the School District ?
JJ2526 March 21, 2012 at 02:29 PM
What over 55 couple is going to "downsize" to a 2 bedroom/den condo for $950,000, after they sell their Plainview 3 bedroom split for $450,000 (if they are lucky to get that)? The developer keeps saying "Plainview Needs This"...Everyone that I have spoken to doesn't understand what they mean when thay state that Plainview needing 800 more homes, and 60 more stores...the Town of Oyster Bay needs more S-2 units because the wait-list is several years long. We can only assume that there isn't enough profit for the developer to give Plainview & Town of Oyster Bay what they truly need, so they will just build a development that makes them the most money...please stop saying that this is what Plainview wants and needs, and just be honest about the intentions of the development.
Simba March 21, 2012 at 08:34 PM
JJ I think what is happening is they are listening to a developer who is a master salesman, tells you what you want to hear but does not back it up with fact. People hear 55 and older, but don't ask at what price. The developer has yet to give a factual response to School impact, School Tax impact, infrastructure, Cost of Affordable housing to support first time homeowners, how long he will hold the price at this level. Reminds me of "We Need Change"......great political tactic.
John Pine March 24, 2012 at 05:05 AM
How about turning it into a park? There's very few parks here in Nassau compared to neighboring Suffolk. Let Wang build on the eyesore in Uniondale instead of bulldozing open space.

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