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Some Believe Plainview is Divided East and West

For years, some in town have wondered if the eastern, or Mattlin, side of town, gets preferential treatment in school programs.

The argument has been heard in Plainview's schools for years:

The Mattlin/JFK side of town (the east side) gets special treatment over the Plainview-Old Bethpage/western side of town.

This week on the Plainview Patch Facebook page, a reader argues that the kids at were not being treated fairly with regard to 8th Grade Dance. The event, the reader says, has been downgraded. You can read the post here.

The bigger debate has been around ever since the "new" high school, , opened in the 1960s. JFK and Mattlin were and the community's somewhat more affluent tended to live in and around Manetto Hill and the Washington Avenue corridor.

It's a big generalization, and may not hold up to scrutiny, but the impression lingers.

School district officials and school board members have heard the arguments for years and have denied any preferential treatment.

This is a chance to sound off in our poll and comments. Let's keep the responses civil and on point. Perhaps we can find some common ground on an issue that we have lived with in Plainview for years.

Sue schiller June 15, 2012 at 10:41 AM
I remember when Pasadena school was reopened in the 1990s and kids were re districted, some parents went nuts since they bought houses on east side of town for the better schools.. I find good n bad kids on both sides..
Simba June 15, 2012 at 12:51 PM
For those that voted that Mattlin get's "treated" better. I would like to hear how. I've never heard about this.I have heard about this referring to the Pasadena Elem. School. Either way this is an amusing topic.
caroline bock June 15, 2012 at 02:19 PM
On the soccer fields, a parent recently shared a suggestion -- have POB Middle be 5th and 6th grades and Mattlin be 7 and 8th grade -- for the entire district (or the other way around, the point is to have all the kids together). I think it's an interesting one!
George June 15, 2012 at 02:20 PM
I can tell you that during the late 80's when there were two High Schools, JFK was on the "better" side of town, and it was mostly reflected in the attidude of the students.
Tom June 15, 2012 at 04:27 PM
Attitude? What kind of attitude? I know that people on the east side of town do tend to look down on the people on the west side even referring to part of it as "the grid" when insulting it.
Joe Dowd (Editor) June 15, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Let me go back even further: The first "redistricting" was back in the late '60s, when some students along the Central Park corridor were transferred from Joyce Road School (Now the HANC) to Oak Drive School (demolished; now a housing development), and you should have seen the firestorm over that one. This may sound like ancient history, but I never believed any of it was intentional, always practical moves that were misconstrued. Please, let's keep talking.
Susan Breidner Davidoff June 15, 2012 at 06:01 PM
ok....really angyy at POBMS!!! Our kids 8th grade dance w dj in the gym has turned in to a "dine and sign" pizza and yearbooks gathering in the cafeteria with and i-dock playing music. This was after kids voted on the theme of the dance being "black out" expecting a party. To add insult to injury...the gym is being used by Stratford Road Elementary for their 4th grade circus!!!! The other middle school had no problemorganizing festive celebrations for their graduates...what gives??? MY taxes are just as high as the houses on the other side of town.... The kids deserve a better celebration.... Nevermind that...kids who take the regents are being allowed to attend school only when they have their exam on regents days...The kids who do not have regents are being told that they won't be allowed to attend the remains of the party aka dine and sign if they leave the building and are forced to sit in classes that are half empty and watch movies?!?!?!? HUH? REALLY??
Tom June 15, 2012 at 06:28 PM
I think that is a great idea.
ray zajac June 15, 2012 at 07:20 PM
this is really a matter of perception. i would guess that the west side would vote yes and since there is more west siders than east a larger percentage will be in the totals.
Sharon June 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM
When my daughter was in 8th grade at POB MS last year, she was told that the budget didn't allow for a graduation trip as had been done in past years. The parents were not asked to help pay for it and fundraising wasn't allowed. However, the 8th graders at Mattlin got their trip. Guess there was money in the budget for some kids, just not all of them
Simba June 16, 2012 at 01:30 AM
Here is what I don't get. Is the problem the residents that live in one area vs another that is the issue. If that is what people believe that is a crock. Sure some idiots are going to point fingers but if the issue is about inequality at the schools than point the finger at the School SI. I'm hoping the new SI is "balanced" in approach, we are all paying more than enough in taxes to have this school district perform for every student not just those that are perceived to be better because the parents drive better cars than the rest of us.
Debbie June 17, 2012 at 02:16 PM
THIS IS WHAT YOU PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT! SCHOOL PARTIES AND WHO GETS TREATED BETTER DEPENDING ON WHAT SCHOOL YOUR IN! OPEN YOUR EYES LOOK WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE HOUSES FOR SALE AND THE AREA CHANGING IS WHAT WORRIES ME NOT YOUR SCHOOL DANCES.
Debbie June 17, 2012 at 02:17 PM
HUH REALLY?
Sharon June 17, 2012 at 04:50 PM
it's not about the school parties. It's about perception. If we all pay into one school budget, why do some kids get treated better than others simply because of which school they attend. That brings about resentment between the kids and their parents, which leads to the attitude that one side of Plainview is better than the other. If the people within one township are divided, then people stop helping and caring about ALL their neighbors. We should all be proud to live in P-OB and be saddened about the state of our school, our neighborhoods and the businesses going out of business every time I look around.
Sonnie Deutsch June 18, 2012 at 01:55 AM
It was shared on the Facebook post that Mattlin's PTA paid for the DJ. Not the district. I think that makes a difference when discussing funds and budgets of individual schools. Administration, parents' involvement, how active PTAs are? All matter when discussing the so-called 'better' side of town.
Stefanie Nelkens June 18, 2012 at 03:00 AM
There have been discussions about differences in middle school trips at the last BOE meeting, PTA meeting at POB MS, and on averyplainview blog. POB MS has a dedicated, hard working PTA that does great things for kids, the school and our district. Thank you Marie, Holly, the executive board and parent volunteers for all your time and efforts and contributions.
Poor side June 19, 2012 at 03:15 AM
the grid starts after jamaca school
Poor side June 19, 2012 at 03:16 AM
The grid especially Orchard Street needs to be redone. All the other streets are getting repaved please repave Orchard Street
Tom June 19, 2012 at 06:48 PM
Everything from Pasadena and east has to be redone first.
Poor side June 19, 2012 at 11:40 PM
Pasadena was done.
plainviewoldbethpageresident June 20, 2012 at 04:00 AM
Lets stop worrying about 8th grade graduation parties. Let's look at the true inequalities....The transportation system provided by the district clearly favors POB Middle School. The POB Middle School students receive preferential bus schedules which allow the kids additional sleep which is a hell of alot more important than a graduation signing dance. There are enough 8th grade graduation parties occurring this week in our area. One less school party isn't going to hurt anyone in this town. In addition, the kids who attend Mattlin and participate in athletics are bussed to POB MIddle School and then forced to wait unattended until the POB students are dismissed (approx 45 minutes-1 hour later). Why is this? The POB School Board has stated this is done to make sure the teachers are not inconvenienced by an alternating schedule for each school. It's all done in the best interest of the kids, right? I think not.
Simba June 20, 2012 at 05:36 PM
And the alternative offered by the Bus Schedule is to have K kids picked up at 6:30 AM from Old Bethpage. Oh yeah that would of been BRILLIANT !!! How about using our tax dollars and add more buses to the route instead of buying a new A/C for the Admin staff.

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